Report: Blackhawks not expected to sign goaltenders Gravel, Peeters

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    Mario Tirabassi
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    The Chicago Blackhawks’ future in net has been a point of discussion for some time now. It began with the signing of Robin Lehner last summer as a fre
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    #17143
    Mister Ricochet
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    Very curios decision IMO.  Gravel just turned 20 in March, a 4 yr starter in the Q, good size at 6ft 3 in, has answered the bell and shown good health playing 50, 39, 49, 40 games, his playoff SPG is much higher than his regular season playing 37 games over 3 playoff yrs, voted top Memorial Cup goalie in  18/19, represented Canada in the U-16 Youth Olympic Games, was on the Canadian Hlinka team, they used draft capital on him, I believe he’s their youngest goalie prospect in a group with no real Grade A goalies in the pipeline.

    Kid checks way too many boxes to give up on at just 20 yrs old before he ever played a pro game.

    And I can’t let any talk of a Hawks goalie draft pick go by without saying whoever was responsible for taking Peeters in rd 3 needs to be fired immediately. Watched the kid quite a few times the yr he was drafted out of the USHL live and on Hockey TV and simply said he could not skate!  Not an off balanced skater, a guy who falls down going behind the net, falls down on cross ice passes.  Watching you felt embarrassed for the kid and the Hawks drafted him, not taking a 7th rd flyer but a valuable 3rd rd pick…………. This isn’t hindsight, posted the same the day he was drafted.

    #17145
    Jeff Osborn
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    Very curios decision IMO. Gravel just turned 20 in March, a 4 yr starter in the Q, good size at 6ft 3 in, has answered the bell and shown good health playing 50, 39, 49, 40 games, his playoff SPG is much higher than his regular season playing 37 games over 3 playoff yrs, voted top Memorial Cup goalie in 18/19, represented Canada in the U-16 Youth Olympic Games, was on the Canadian Hlinka team, they used draft capital on him, I believe he’s their youngest goalie prospect in a group with no real Grade A goalies in the pipeline. Kid checks way too many boxes to give up on at just 20 yrs old before he ever played a pro game. And I can’t let any talk of a Hawks goalie draft pick go by without saying whoever was responsible for taking Peeters in rd 3 needs to be fired immediately. Watched the kid quite a few times the yr he was drafted out of the USHL live and on Hockey TV and simply said he could not skate! Not an off balanced skater, a guy who falls down going behind the net, falls down on cross ice passes. Watching you felt embarrassed for the kid and the Hawks drafted him, not taking a 7th rd flyer but a valuable 3rd rd pick…………. This isn’t hindsight, posted the same the day he was drafted.

     

    Agreed.  they are pinning their future on being able to have a goalie plopped in their lap by the goalie fairy.  They had a shot with Lahner and blew that.  Crawford is a swift breeze from leaving them with Collin Delia and Kevin Lankinen (or maybe Malcolm Subban)as their starters.  Gravel has talent and I love those lefties.  He played for a terrible Halifax team and they just dump him?  Bush league.  They are going to be in serious trouble in net VERY soon unless they take Askarov.

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    #17146
    Mister Ricochet
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    You know Oz I do not know if there is a plan I’m unaware of but this just doesn’t make sense but to me is a symptom of a larger problem I hope a new prez of Hockey Ops can fix.

    Yes the Hawks have come up with Darlings and Raantas but look what happens when they don’t in a particular yr.  Look at the goalies used when Crow was out for a long spell with that concussion in 2017/18.  https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000352018.html

    To me this is so egregious it’s a firing offense. Then the 3rd rd pick used on Peeters who was horrendous the yr they drafted him.  Another firing offense.  Peeters was a bust BEFORE they drafted him using a THIRD.

    Simply said the Hawks have shown over and over they can not manage the most important position.  Unless Crow stayed healthy or they hit on ONE Darling or Raanta that yr they leave themselves naked as 2017/18 showed.

    My hope is a prez of Hockey Ops, or new GM, can fix this.  …….As far as Askarov I’m scared shi%#*%! as far as drafting him.  Universally thought to be a top 10 talent but man the kid was a deer in headlights at the WJC.   Every goalie goes thru stretches where they can’t stop a beach ball and that was Askarov in last yrs WJC.  Add the way the Hawks organIzation evaluates the position and I’m very afraid no matter if they take him or not.

    Would Florida do a Spencer Knight plus for the Hawk’s 9th? Knight is an 01 and Tallon has Bob signed for a back breaking 10 mil per for 6 or 7 more yrs.  Tallon could draft 02 Askarov and buy himself 3-4 yrs before the Cossack is ready to back up at the NHL level and once his ELC is over Bob’s contract would be over or close to it………… Cuz in a yr or two at the most Knight will have nothing left to prove at the NCAA level and want to come out.  Who knows Knight may tell the Panthers I don’t wanna sit behind Bob for 3-4 yrs so I’m gonna wait the 4 yrs, not sign and become a FA.  Do the Panthers wanna take that chance?

     

    #17147
    Jeff Osborn
    Keymaster

    You know Oz I do not know if there is a plan I’m unaware of but this just doesn’t make sense but to me is a symptom of a larger problem I hope a new prez of Hockey Ops can fix. Yes the Hawks have come up with Darlings and Raantas but look what happens when they don’t in a particular yr. Look at the goalies used when Crow was out for a long spell with that concussion in 2017/18. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000352018.html To me this is so egregious it’s a firing offense. Then the 3rd rd pick used on Peeters who was horrendous the yr they drafted him. Another firing offense. Peeters was a bust BEFORE they drafted him using a THIRD. Simply said the Hawks have shown over and over they can not manage the most important position. Unless Crow stayed healthy or they hit on ONE Darling or Raanta that yr they leave themselves naked as 2017/18 showed. My hope is a prez of Hockey Ops, or new GM, can fix this. …….As far as Askarov I’m scared shi%#*%! as far as drafting him. Universally thought to be a top 10 talent but man the kid was a deer in headlights at the WJC. Every goalie goes thru stretches where they can’t stop a beach ball and that was Askarov in last yrs WJC. Add the way the Hawks organIzation evaluates the position and I’m very afraid no matter if they take him or not. Would Florida do a Spencer Knight plus for the Hawk’s 9th? Knight is an 01 and Tallon has Bob signed for a back breaking 10 mil per for 6 or 7 more yrs. Tallon could draft 02 Askarov and buy himself 3-4 yrs before the Cossack is ready to back up at the NHL level and once his ELC is over Bob’s contract would be over or close to it………… Cuz in a yr or two at the most Knight will have nothing left to prove at the NCAA level and want to come out. Who knows Knight may tell the Panthers I don’t wanna sit behind Bob for 3-4 yrs so I’m gonna wait the 4 yrs, not sign and become a FA. Do the Panthers wanna take that chance?

    Honestly, by all accounts, Askarov has a higher upside and I think I’d rather have him.  The Russians are the latest hot commodities in net.  Vasilevskiy, Shestyorkin, Sorokin, and Samsomov either have starting jobs or about to take them over.  That said, I’d certainly take a kid like Knight in the system.  All they have is Delia, Lankinen and Tomkins with Dominic Basse as a huge unknown.  None of them scream “next big NHL starter.”

    Letting Lehner go was just plain stupid.  They could have had him at a reasonable clip ($5 M for 5 years), which would have been perfect to let some prospects develop.  If Crawford goes down (WHEN they extend him) poor Collin Delia is going to be shell shocked.

    This is a problem of their own creating.  Their arrogance has led them to draft players that have little chance of seeing the NHL and hoping that goalie fairy plops the next Antti Raanta in their lap.  Good luck with that.  They missed on that guy this year, in Alexei Melnichuk, who signed in San Jose.

    I can’t imagine looking at their goalie depth and thinking, “Well, we have a good group, so let’s pass on Gravel.”

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