The Blackhawks Rinkcast – Episode 26 w/ The Rink Staffers

  

The-Rink.com host Jeff “Gatekeeper” Osborn is joined by Rink writers Mario Tirabassi and Aaron Goldschmidt to wrap up the draft and free agency.

  • The Blackhawks draft plenty of players, but make no moves. #LoseForHughes (Shout out to Sean White)
  • Free agency hits and the Blackhawks barely register on the scale. Is this a #SilentRebuild? (shout out to John Jaeckel)
  • Stan Bowman has another virtually useless press conference full of more fluff, empty words and lisp service
  • The Corey Crawford saga is still no closer to being answered
  • Seems like a lot of doom, gloom and #RinkRage
  • We wrap up the episode with some great listener/reader questions.

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    The-Rink.com host Jeff “Gatekeeper” Osborn is joined by Rink writers Mario Tirabassi and Aaron Goldschmidt to wrap up the draft and free agency. The B
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    #7796
    Joe Roncetti
    Participant

    Wow?!

    Sorry guys, this one was tough to listen to. I understand the grumpy old guy schtick/narrative as a continuous thread through these P casts but today it was tiresome and counter productive. It’s almost as if WHATEVER Stan does, it must be retro fitted into this negative theme that dominates what you guys talk about. If he fails to make a big free agent splash? He’s accused of being overly cautious. If he signs a D man with some size and physicality? it’s “who’s this Manning guy?” Well that guy scored more goals then any of our D men this year….And isn’t just possible that Stan’s not done? That he’s not trying to make a trade, or that he didn’t try and land a big free agent? I mean even Hossa, we forgot that this medical situation was dropped in his lap and was still a top end player who was no longer was available. I appreciate what you guys do but it’s starting to get obvious and kinda toxic… Lets remember who Stan’s dad is and what that old guy knows…

    Best

    Joe

    #7798
    Mister Ricochet
    Participant

    Fellas, Kunitz is a physical player.

    Vinnie can play 3rd line. Speed, energy, forecheck, push, north-south. Top 6 speed, bottom 6 hands.

    Why was Ward given an NTC? Cuz he’s the only goaltender who has started in the NHL that would sign for ONE yr.

    Been thru this many times with JJ. Just don’t understand why people think a GM is gonna say anything, period. Especially in Hawk universe where they control messaging. IMO, and have had back and forth with JJ on this, listen to StanBow at your own peril. ….. Don’t tell my ears show my eyes.

    Who said the club finished in last and not one person in management was made to pay? Well said, sir.

    #7805
    Jeff Osborn
    Keymaster

    Fellas, Kunitz is a physical player.

    Ok. A 38 year old guy with nothing left doesn’t make this team any better.

    Why was Ward given an NTC? Cuz he’s the only goaltender who has started in the NHL that would sign for ONE yr.

    Robin Lehner? Petr Mrazek? Both 8 years younger. Both have been starters recently. Both have comparable stats. Both are still on the rise, rather than in the decline. Neither got NMC.

    Once again, Stan overpaid for a player that no one was in a bidding war for.

    @PuckinHostile on Twitter

    #7806
    Jeff Osborn
    Keymaster

    Wow?! Sorry guys, this one was tough to listen to. I understand the grumpy old guy schtick/narrative as a continuous thread through these P casts but today it was tiresome and counter productive. It’s almost as if WHATEVER Stan does, it must be retro fitted into this negative theme that dominates what you guys talk about. If he fails to make a big free agent splash? He’s accused of being overly cautious. If he signs a D man with some size and physicality? it’s “who’s this Manning guy?” Well that guy scored more goals then any of our D men this year….And isn’t just possible that Stan’s not done? That he’s not trying to make a trade, or that he didn’t try and land a big free agent? I mean even Hossa, we forgot that this medical situation was dropped in his lap and was still a top end player who was no longer was available. I appreciate what you guys do but it’s starting to get obvious and kinda toxic… Lets remember who Stan’s dad is and what that old guy knows… Best Joe

    You’ve totally missed the point.

    Maybe if he did something that made sense and made this team better, then it wouldn’t be an issue. He’s done neither. When this team misses the playoffs again, with the same glaring holes, everyone acts utterly shocked because the “great salary cap wizard” that has this team handcuffed did the bare minimum.

    They needed a top 4 defender. They didn’t get one. Manning is fine. No one has a problem with him. He’s another bottom pair defenseman. They have rough 12 of those. How about not signing Gustafsson AND Rutta AND Oesterle AND Manning? That’s 4 guys for 2 spots. Not to mention 3-4 guys in Rockford that could play in those spots. They have, at minimum, $6,500,000 tied up in 4 bottom pairing defenders. Arguably, Seabrook could also be a bottom pair guy which would make it $13,000,000 tied up in 5 bottom pair defenders. And no one is alarmed by this?

    He gives a 34 year old backup goalie that no one was bidding for $1.5M too much and a NMC. Not alarming at all.

    He just made this team demonstrably older!

    Oh, sure, Stan’s not done. He’s going to now overpay to try and unload Hossa’s deal. Then he’s going to give up assets he cannot afford to lose to get something he probably should have been able to get in free agency.

    Lets remember who Stan’s dad is and what that old guy knows

    Stan Bowman is becoming a laughing stock to others around the league. But, hey, let’s all live in the past. Just because someone’s father did something doesn’t automatically make him immune to being over rated.

    That’s like saying because Brent Gretzky is Wayne’s brother he should be able to score 1000 goals. Genetics is not an excuse to overlook poor decisions.

    @PuckinHostile on Twitter

    #7809
    Mister Ricochet
    Participant

    Mister Ricochet wrote:
    Fellas, Kunitz is a physical player.
    Ok. A 38 year old guy with nothing left doesn’t make this team any better.

    Mister Ricochet wrote:
    Why was Ward given an NTC? Cuz he’s the only goaltender who has started in the NHL that would sign for ONE yr.Quote
    Robin Lehner? Petr Mrazek? Both 8 years younger. Both have been starters recently. Both have comparable stats. Both are still on the rise, rather than in the decline. Neither got NMC. Once again, Stan overpaid for a player that no one was in a bidding war for.

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    Lehner WILL get hurt every yr. I try and get him late in fantasy hockey every yr knowing he will get hurt and that maybe he won’t and I have a legit #1 drafted in the 14th rd. Stan doesn’t have that luxury with a question mark in Forsberg.

    Mrazek is as inconsistent as they come. Good luck hitching your wagon to this guy.

    They did not need to hit a homer at the position they needed to hit a double and they did with Ward. The only FA available who will not melt down as a #1 fancy stats be damned. All for ONE yr, 1 yr, he’s a bridge to 2018/19. If the had the cap space don’t care if they paid him 9 mil. It’s ONE yr.

    Someone on your podcast said Kunitz was not a bottom 6 cuz he wasn’t physical. Must have mistaken him for someone else cuz it’s well known the guy hits people. Plus it’s ONE yr, 1 yr. I don’t care who in the hell they signed, take Jagr, if it’s only ONE yr. ….. Would have preferred any center to any wing for under 2 mil but what the hell difference does it really make????

    You think a window is open??? They should have, could have, added a FA player that gets them in the playoffs? With Crow a question, every one of the anchor core sucking out loud needing a rebound yr, no slump from Dcat/Schmaltz, one of the 3-4-5 3rd rotation guys stepping up into the 2nd rotation, good health from all? 11 ifs have to hit to be competitive is a reason to add ANYONE over 26/27 to term in FA? If that’s your stance we disagree the divide being enormous, insurmountable.

    Ward ONE yr, who cares. Kunitz ONE yr, what difference does it really make? The guy they would have signed if they didn’t sign these two and Manning was gonna what??? Get them closer, put em over the top????

    Do no harm, period. That’s what this is reduced to and that’s what Stan did.

    #7838
    Dawid
    Participant

    Personally I’m okay with Bowman’s FA signings. They’re short term contracts that can potentially fill in the leaks in the ceiling; until our next wave is closer to making an impact. Why even get frustrated and complain about our staff? Do we really want to make trades to improve short term when there’s no way any trade-even if it meant we won a trade and got Karlsonn for nothing- could allow the Blackhawks to put up a fight for the Cup against the Top 4 contenders?

    Manning who’s a pest, will bring grit and stick up for our players. We need to have players like him that make opponents look over there shoulders twice. Additionally we will have someone who will throw hands and protect all our young guns from taking serious injuries from dirty hits.

    Kunitz, deserves a bit more respect. Additionally, I’d rather have 2 very young players out on the ice with one veteran forward rather than 3 very young forwards(better known as constant premature turnovers.) Kunitz will help our bottom 6 keeps its structure, physicality, scoring, and composure. Moreover, he can be a trade piece for a draft pick before the trade deadline. I will also be looking forward to Kunitz playing his 1,000 game in a Hawks sweater. If not, he’s gone after this year and it’s not a big deal.

    Ward is also a one year contract. BIG DEAL. Goalies are a gamble, but Ward is the best one to sign out of the crop. His experience as a Conn Smythe rookie, and familiarity with so many former Hawks who went to Carolina helps.

    These old men can make Toews and Kane feel younger? They can change the vibe of the locker room. They were willing to sign one year contracts.

    Bowman played FA right by not signing some over-priced/hyped player. We need the cap space for future signings knowing it’s going to be tough getting rid of Hossa, Seabs, Anisimov, and even Crawford in 2 years after these apparent vertigo symptoms.

    Yes, we have lots of defenseman signed, but that’s how it is sometimes. They have to battle to be a part of the 3 pairs. Rutta could potentially be traded if Joki jumps off to a great start. I like Gustafson. He actually clicked with Kaner pretty well. He makes plays happen, and will be part of a top 4 role with Murphy or Seabs.

    The Hawks will probably suck, but I’m still going to watch every game. Our players will progress, and the team will improve with time. They just have to suck for another year. If the Hawks become a laughing stock because they are losers, then good because we’ll comeback and shut everyone up. Then again Idk if that will be possible with how many players Bowman has overpaid

    On another note, I was searching for good Blackhawks insiders, so any Blackhawks news/rumors/analysis/opinions I can get my hands on. I came across this website last year, and was really interested. I enjoy listening to some Blackhawks hockey, and good controversial thoughts are pointed out. Unfortunately I’m sorry, but the more I listen and read what’s being said, the more I lose interest in your site. Im always feeling like I’m disagreeing with your points. I’m not a fan of all the complaining and negativity you promote towards the team we have become. Never seems to be any enthusiasm or potential solutions to start the fire instead.

    I will still listen, as I’m curious what other Hawks fans opinions are. Keep up the work guys 👍🏻😬 lol

     

     

    #7841
    Joe Roncetti
    Participant

    Look, Im not going to go point for point with you. I brought up Stan’s father because he obviously turns to him for direction and wisdom, your Gretzky comparison is not even remotely similar. I can’t quite fathom how you’re so qualified and authoritative on these decisions? I mean there is a whole other side that you can’t possibly know? A million emails, demands, conversations that not one of us are privy to…

    But beyond this, if you don’t want to address the overall negativity, then as you were sailor!

    #7849
    Alan Parsons
    Participant

    Manning is going to be turnstyled and embarrassed and will end up taking stupid ass penalties every couple of games. He isnt any good. The Flyers D has been awful for years. He is a goon on a team that doesnt fight. Great work, Stan. Hawks fans are gonna hate him by December.

    #7808
    Mister Ricochet
    Participant

    Fellas, Kunitz is a physical player.

    Ok. A 38 year old guy with nothing left doesn’t make this team any better.

    Why was Ward given an NTC? Cuz he’s the only goaltender who has started in the NHL that would sign for ONE yr.

    Robin Lehner? Petr Mrazek? Both 8 years younger. Both have been starters recently. Both have comparable stats. Both are still on the rise, rather than in the decline. Neither got NMC. Once again, Stan overpaid for a player that no one was in a bidding war for.

    Lehner WILL get hurt every yr. I try and get him late in fantasy hockey every yr knowing he will get hurt and that maybe he won’t and I have a legit #1 drafted in the 14th rd. Stan doesn’t have that luxury with a question mark in Forsberg.

    Mrazek is as inconsistent as they come. Good luck hitching your wagon to this guy.

    They did not need to hit a homer at the position they needed to hit a double and they did with Ward. The only FA available who will not melt down as a #1 fancy stats be damned. All for ONE yr, 1 yr, he’s a bridge to 2018/19. If the had the cap space don’t care if they paid him 9 mil. It’s ONE yr.

    Someone on your podcast said Kunitz was not a bottom 6 cuz he wasn’t physical. Must have mistaken him for someone else cuz it’s well known the guy hits people. Plus it’s ONE yr, 1 yr. I don’t care who in the hell they signed, take Jagr, if it’s only ONE yr. ….. Would have preferred any center to any wing for under 2 mil but what the hell difference does it really make????

    You think a window is open??? They should have, could have, added a FA player that gets them in the playoffs? With Crow a question, every one of the anchor core sucking out loud needing a rebound yr, no slump from Dcat/Schmaltz, one of the 3-4-5 3rd rotation guys stepping up into the 2nd rotation, good health from all? 11 ifs have to hit to be competitive is a reason to add ANYONE over 26/27 to term in FA? If that’s your stance we disagree the divide being enormous, insurmountable.

    Ward ONE yr, who cares. Kunitz ONE yr, what difference does it really make? The guy they would have signed if they didn’t sign these two and Manning was gonna what??? Get them closer, put em over the top????

    Do no harm, period. That’s what this is reduced to and that’s what Stan did.

     

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