Rumors: Wednesday update, PHL, WSH, TB

  

Real quickly, as I tweeted a few minutes ago, the rumors are coming fast and furious this morning, and I suspect (and emphasize) there could be more conversations going on between the Blackhawks and other teams than those I’m reporting.

From the top:

WASHINGTON AND/OR TAMPA BAY

The Hawks had two pro scouts present for the game between these two teams last night, including Dir. of Pro Scouting Ryan Stewart. No players mentioned.

PHILADELPHIA

This could be a significant deal.

From Chicago: Artem Anisimov and Ryan Hartman for SOME COMBINATION, BUT LIKELY NOT ALL OF Val Fillipula, Michael Raffl and either Samuel Morin OR Travis Sanheim. The Hawks might also have to retain some of Anisimov’s salary. No idea whether AA has been asked to waive, but his NMC expires 7/1 anyway.

I’ll be checking in and posting as things break.

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  • #5388
    John Jaeckel
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    Rumors are coming fast and furious this AM, and I suspect (and want to emphasize) there are probably more conversations taking place than those I’m re
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    Apparently, all goalies are Vikings

    #5393
    Chico Maki
    Participant

    Is it just me or does this site crash a lot? I get error messages a lot when I try to log in.

    Raffl is like 30 and Filipulla maybe 34. Not exactly a Bowman youth movement.

    ???

    #5397
    Alan Parsons
    Participant

    This would be a garbage trade.  Terrible.  All to get a 7/8th D man?  We have enough of those already.   Cant be real.

    #5399
    fattybeef
    Participant

    Looks like somewhat of a salary dump + trying to get a handle on another young big mobile defender who hasn’t quite put it all together yet.

    #5400
    fattybeef
    Participant

    I could see the Hawks wanting to poach a guy like Killorn not sure what Tampa would want to come off of in a playoff run unless Palat is out for close to the end of the season and they’re super desperate.

    #5401
    Jeff Osborn
    Keymaster

    Is it just me or does this site crash a lot? I get error messages a lot when I try to log in.

    Sorry, man.  There were technical issues.

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    #5407
    BK
    Participant

    This would be a terrible trade and if it happened Stan should get canned.

    #5410
    Walleyeb1
    Participant

    I see where this trade would help Phi, but don’t see how it does much of anything for us. I’d pass on this quickly.

    #5413
    Chico Maki
    Participant

    I might be interested in Travis Sabdheim. But, if AA and Hartman would be going to the Flyers, I’d want more than Filipula and Raffl.

    #5417
    John Jaeckel
    Keymaster

    Is it just me or does this site crash a lot? I get error messages a lot when I try to log in. Raffl is like 30 and Filipulla maybe 34. Not exactly a Bowman youth movement. ???

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    As for the trade, just bear in mind, the Hawks are weak down the middle and have no secondary FO option to Toews. Filipula can be that, and that is worth something. Hawks have had interest in Raffl in the past but one of the young defenders, both recent first round picks would be key to the deal. You get some quality center depth and a defenseman to develop.

    Apparently, all goalies are Vikings

    #5420
    John Jaeckel
    Keymaster

    I might be interested in Travis Sabdheim. But, if AA and Hartman would be going to the Flyers, I’d want more than Filipula and Raffl.

     

    Sanheim, drafted 17th overall in 2014, 6’3″, 195 (with room to grow)

    “Can move the puck rather well out of danger, and also contribute greatly on offense. Owns a very projectable frame. Is an asset on the power play. Defends his position well.”

     

    Morin, drafted 11th overall in 2013, 6’6″ 202

    “Is a massive defenseman who should eventually fill out to become an intmididating force in the NHL. Moves the puck well, has plenty of shutdown upside and can also drop the gloves.”

     

    Plus a really good faceoff guy who can play anywhere between 2C and 3C

     

    For a 2C/3C who is terrible on faceoffs and a 3rd line wing (which is what Hartman is). I don’t know, I actually think it’s a pretty good deal for the Hawks, who have NOTHING like either of those D prospects in their system.

    Apparently, all goalies are Vikings

    #5421
    kevin
    Participant

    Flippula is going to be 34 in a month, and is a UFA this is a cap dump and does not bring any value to the trade unless we can flip him before the trade deadline.    the D prospects are not bad but would need to get both of them.

    #5422
    Walleyeb1
    Participant

    Stan couldn’t possibly be that stupid, a 33 year old UFA, and a struggling 29 year old winger that’s scored a total of 29 points in the last two seasons and a prospect for AA and Hartman and we’re supposed to retain salary for being fleeced.

    #5423
    fattybeef
    Participant

    A cap dump for a very good defensive prospect isn’t necessarily the worst thing. Probably means they are moving money around to make potential room for something else. I think they would need to include a pick of some sorts as well.

    And what is Hartman now? He has scored 15 and 19 goals, shown a fair level of skill but has been all over the line up this year. If Shaw is the barometer then you’re looking at 2 or more million over two years except he doesn’t seem to be getting the same leash from Q. Maybe with guys like Highmore and Hayden and even Hino – they think they have that third line energy Swiss army knife guy covered and for cheaper.

    If you can use Hartman to shed some salary and get a big young high ceiling defender then maybe that isn’t a bad thing. And maybe you resign Filppula for those 2-3 million you’d spend on Hartman to help out with the younger guys and play that 3rd pivot role. Its probably a good deal for both teams if you look at it that way.

    #5424
    Chico Maki
    Participant

    Raffl is a bottom 6 guy–we have plenty of those types.

    Filipula is gonna be 34.   I’ll grant you he’s better on faceoffs than AA.  Did I read right, Hawks would be paying part of AA’s salary too??

    If Sandheim is included, he damn well better turn into a top 4 Dman.

    #5425
    Hawk59
    Participant

    I would take the 2 D-men and maybe a couple of picks. Something like a 2nd & a 3rd or 4th.

    #5426
    Chico Maki
    Participant

    Maybe Stan can get Dale Weiss back.

     

    #5427
    Under Qs moustache
    Participant

    the Bowman love affair with smurf size players at the draft now comes back to bite. As we saw 2 nights ago vs the Kings, ya gotta have a few big guys to push into the zone and control the boards

    #5428
    Walleyeb1
    Participant

    Discussion went like this:

    Stan: Hey Ron, I’m interested in one of your young defensive prospects, Travis Sanheim. Is he possibly available?

    Ron: He might be Stan, but we might be willing to make Samual Morin available.

    Stan: What would it take if we were interested in one of them?

    Ron: While I have you on the phone I’m wondering if Artem Anisimov is available or possibly Ryan Hartman?

    Stan: They might be but I’m really interested in Sanheim or what’s his name oh yeah Morin.

    Ron: Would you consider Filppula and Raffi for Anisimov and Hartman?

    Stan: Maybe but like I said I’m really interested in either Sanheim or that Morin guy. What would it take to get one of them?

    Ron: If you’d be willing to retain half of Anisimov’s salary we could probably throw in Morin.

    Stan: I’ll have to talk to John about that and get back to you Ron, thanks.

    #5430
    Chico Maki
    Participant

    Sadly, that’s probably not far from the truth.

     

     

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